On Friday's broadcast of MSNBC's "Katy Tur Reports," Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) commented on keeping the government open and stated that he wants to stay with the debt ceiling deal that was made, but if people want to add Ukraine money, "NATO means as much to this country as it means to any other members. We need to be protecting our place in the world. We cannot isolate ourselves from the rest of the world" and that he's fine with putting in money for border security, "but not to do this crazy stuff building walls that people will find a way over."