Alex Castellanos vs. Ana Navarro: Is Donald Trump "Listening And Learning"? Will People Forgive Him?

GOP strategist Alex Castellanos debates former Jeb Bush advisor Ana Navarro about Donald Trump's evolving position on immigration reform. "Republicans get accused of not listening and learning," Castellanos said. "And I think on this issue Donald Trump is listening and learning. And now, of course, he's being criticized for that." "It's funny the way democracy works," he added. "That's not a bad thing... You know, information changes. We learn and grow." "The problem that Donald Trump has is that most humans have a memory," responded Navarro. "And we're not going to forget it within one week... Hispanics are not going to forget Judge Curiel. African Americans are not going to forget that he started the birther movement. I don't think Jewish folks forget the anti-Semitic ad against Hillary Clinton." She added: "Was he raised by wolves?" <blockquote>ALEX CASTELLANOS, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Who says Republicans aren't the party of evolution? CASTELLANOS: So, no, I mean, Republicans get accused of not listening and learning. And I think on this issue Donald Trump is listening and learning. And now, of course, he's being criticized for that. RADDATZ: Is he listening and learning because he saw the polls and most of the exit polls said ? CASTELLANOS: You know, it's funny the way democracy works -- the voters. But that's not a bad thing. You know, Hillary Clinton has flip-flopped on Iran, war, she's flip-flopped on campaign finance and how does she explain it? She says, well, you know, information changes. We learn and grow. RADDATZ: OK, Ana, what he's saying was slammed as amnesty by the most conservative parts of the party about six months ago, when it came from Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John Kasich. So will this change matter to his supporters? You heard the people David Wright was talking to. Some seem to like it. ANA NAVARRO, CNN COMMENTATOR: I think this week has been a debacle for Donald Trump. We have seen him hold more immigration positions than the Kama Sutra. And it's all been in one week. It's been so hard to keep up with. Different people hear different things because he has been saying so many different things. I don't think this works, because, look, you can change the words a person says. You can change the words a person reads off a teleprompter. You can't change a person's heart. CASTELLANOS: -- too far -- NAVARRO: Hispanics are not going to forget Judge Curiel. African Americans are not going to forget that he started the birther movement. I don't think Jewish folks forget the anti-Semitic ad against Hillary Clinton. The problem that Donald Trump has is that most humans have a memory. And we're not going to forget it within one week. The other problem he has is that he has based his campaign on immigration. It's been a pillar of his campaign from day one. And here we are, two months out, and he still has no policy. CASTELLANOS: You've gone way too far here. I mean, first of all, the anti-Semitic ads, a graphic mistakenly put it -- and this is turning into a, how morally superior are we, the elite in Washington, to Republicans, again? And that's a pretty poor way to try to lead the country. And, secondly, I think it's still pretty clear that Donald Trump is the anti-illegal immigration candidate in this race. By the way, that's not what he should be focusing on right now. He should be focusing on the economy --drawing -- moving things forward. So, yes -- NAVARRO: But, Alex, an African American -- an African American woman was shot this weekend, not only an African American woman; her name was Nykea Aldridge. She was the mother of four. And his first reaction is to say "I told you so. Vote for Trump." Forget being unfair -- Was he raised by wolves? Who has that as a first reaction upon somebody's death, Alex? CASTELLANOS: If Republicans should be called racist because of what they say, is it fair to ask if Democrats are racist because of what they have done?</blockquote>